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	<title>Comments on: Praise and fair criticism for Lyceum</title>
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		<title>By: Allen Says</title>
		<link>http://lyceum.ibiblio.org/2007/05/21/praise-and-fair-criticism-for-lyceum/#comment-80629</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Says</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad the problems mentioned here are still a reality today... Was kinda hoping for more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad the problems mentioned here are still a reality today&#8230; Was kinda hoping for more.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg DeKoenigsberg</title>
		<link>http://lyceum.ibiblio.org/2007/05/21/praise-and-fair-criticism-for-lyceum/#comment-53172</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg DeKoenigsberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 04:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's alive enough that we're running Red Hat Magazine on it.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s alive enough that we&#8217;re running Red Hat Magazine on it.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Hussein Elnahas</title>
		<link>http://lyceum.ibiblio.org/2007/05/21/praise-and-fair-criticism-for-lyceum/#comment-53022</link>
		<dc:creator>Hussein Elnahas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, is this project still alive, or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, is this project still alive, or what?</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 08:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to second the notes above on wishing for more current updates, but overall we've tried both on sites we're developing and Lyceum was an easy choice, particularly when working with multiple sites each having its own install of Lyceum, but with an integrated user database (so registration and login are not repeated across the sites).

To use what Streaky says, please, please please don't let Lyceum development stagnate (or worse, die), as there is a quiet number (if not majority) that love it and are putting its high hopes and future on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to second the notes above on wishing for more current updates, but overall we&#8217;ve tried both on sites we&#8217;re developing and Lyceum was an easy choice, particularly when working with multiple sites each having its own install of Lyceum, but with an integrated user database (so registration and login are not repeated across the sites).</p>
<p>To use what Streaky says, please, please please don&#8217;t let Lyceum development stagnate (or worse, die), as there is a quiet number (if not majority) that love it and are putting its high hopes and future on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Smith</title>
		<link>http://lyceum.ibiblio.org/2007/05/21/praise-and-fair-criticism-for-lyceum/#comment-39750</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 04:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried WP MU and Lyceum both when setting up a blogs server here at UQ library.  I wish i'd written some notes on how I made the decision but from what I remember, I thought it would be easier to use lyceum as it just seemed to be an extra column or two on one of the tables and then everything is the same as wordpress.  I liked the way the plugins worked too (system and per blog) and I think it is relatively easy to hack plugins to be lyceum compatible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried WP MU and Lyceum both when setting up a blogs server here at UQ library.  I wish i&#8217;d written some notes on how I made the decision but from what I remember, I thought it would be easier to use lyceum as it just seemed to be an extra column or two on one of the tables and then everything is the same as wordpress.  I liked the way the plugins worked too (system and per blog) and I think it is relatively easy to hack plugins to be lyceum compatible.</p>
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		<title>By: BThale</title>
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		<dc:creator>BThale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 23:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, it's great news that big things are coming for Lyceum.  But, as an OSS/GPL program, is there some reason why these can't be discussed here, in the forums, on lyceum-dev, or placed on the roadmap so we can know what's coming?

Frankly, I'm less concerned with WP integration than I am with seeing &lt;em&gt;any&lt;/em&gt; development efforts on Lyceum advancing and trying to sync my efforts with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, it&#8217;s great news that big things are coming for Lyceum.  But, as an OSS/GPL program, is there some reason why these can&#8217;t be discussed here, in the forums, on lyceum-dev, or placed on the roadmap so we can know what&#8217;s coming?</p>
<p>Frankly, I&#8217;m less concerned with WP integration than I am with seeing <em>any</em> development efforts on Lyceum advancing and trying to sync my efforts with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Allstar</title>
		<link>http://lyceum.ibiblio.org/2007/05/21/praise-and-fair-criticism-for-lyceum/#comment-39043</link>
		<dc:creator>Allstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 09:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Streaky has hit the nail on the head, Lyceum's biggest flaw is that is trails behind the current Wordpress version.  

With the development cycle for Wordpress inceasing will Lyceum be able to keep up?  I prefer the ethos behind Lyceum but huge differences in functionality it makes me second guess my decision to use it and also could be a deterant to new people taking it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Streaky has hit the nail on the head, Lyceum&#8217;s biggest flaw is that is trails behind the current Wordpress version.  </p>
<p>With the development cycle for Wordpress inceasing will Lyceum be able to keep up?  I prefer the ethos behind Lyceum but huge differences in functionality it makes me second guess my decision to use it and also could be a deterant to new people taking it up.</p>
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		<title>By: streaky</title>
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		<dc:creator>streaky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 19:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may have got it wrong about the users, apologies if I have - can't really check right now because I don't have a local install.

With wpmu all the users are listed in a single table, and you can assign everybody to a blog, but it's also kind of split off. I don't remember Lyceum being like that. The thing with wpmu is that you can assign any user as main wpmu admin - so now my 'streaky' user can go into anybodies blog and change stuff, which is useful for support reasons.

Maybe it was because the UI for users was slightly different it just seemed different, again, sorry if Lyceum has all that.

As for the updates, when I was looking I diffed between Lyceum and the latest WP release - probably a bad idea but my reaction was "gulp", but like you say merge will make life easier. Good new on the updates too.

I really do like Lyceum, wpmu's tables-per-blog setup scares me somewhat - I honestly can't see the sense in it, if wordpress.com is set up the same way I can see why they need so many servers.

I've still not completely decided yet and I'll probably give Lyceum another go before we settle one way or the other, if I can still see it's potential there's a good chance we'll run with Lyceum in the end, but for now we're playing with wpmu for a few days, to see how it works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have got it wrong about the users, apologies if I have - can&#8217;t really check right now because I don&#8217;t have a local install.</p>
<p>With wpmu all the users are listed in a single table, and you can assign everybody to a blog, but it&#8217;s also kind of split off. I don&#8217;t remember Lyceum being like that. The thing with wpmu is that you can assign any user as main wpmu admin - so now my &#8217;streaky&#8217; user can go into anybodies blog and change stuff, which is useful for support reasons.</p>
<p>Maybe it was because the UI for users was slightly different it just seemed different, again, sorry if Lyceum has all that.</p>
<p>As for the updates, when I was looking I diffed between Lyceum and the latest WP release - probably a bad idea but my reaction was &#8220;gulp&#8221;, but like you say merge will make life easier. Good new on the updates too.</p>
<p>I really do like Lyceum, wpmu&#8217;s tables-per-blog setup scares me somewhat - I honestly can&#8217;t see the sense in it, if wordpress.com is set up the same way I can see why they need so many servers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve still not completely decided yet and I&#8217;ll probably give Lyceum another go before we settle one way or the other, if I can still see it&#8217;s potential there&#8217;s a good chance we&#8217;ll run with Lyceum in the end, but for now we&#8217;re playing with wpmu for a few days, to see how it works.</p>
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